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Hypatia hardcover edition

I'm not sure how accurate the information about the three different "versions" of the Hypatia edition is. It's possible there's been two slipcased versions (cloth bound and leather bound) and the cases just have gone missing before copies have resurfaced on ebay etc. Also I'm not sure if the 50 copies "not intended for sale" are the same as the leather bound ones, I haven't found reliable numbers anywhere. There also might be a softcover ARC version out there. To make things more confusing, the publisher apparently also assigned the same ISBN to its 1994 title "Seeker's Mask" by P. C. Hodgell. If you own a copy of the Hypatia edition of Wizard, any information you can provide could be helpful (is it signed, numbered, in a case, what kind of binding etc) --Mervi (talk) 15:16, 4 July 2014 (EEST)


Right. Dug deep into the notes Willem sent me years ago and here's what I found:

After some correspondence with publisher Alan Bard Newcomer (not sure if email address is still valid) there appeared to be a story behind this confusion. The deluxe edition (the $100 above) was meant to be a blue hardcover, leatherbound, with a matching (also blue leatherbound) Silver Lady & The Fortyish Man, together in a slipcase. After binding the 50 blue hardcover's the bookbinder found out he had not enough 'blue bonded leather' left for the Silver Lady & The Fortyish Man.

Change of plan was to cut short the 250 (lettered with Roman numbers) run of dark gray bonded leather to only 50 copies, and use the remaining leather for the Silver Lady & The Fortyish Man. The limitation page in these 50 dark gray hardcover's is taken from the blue one and tipped into the dark gray ones over their original limitation page of 250. So there where only 50 (or about 50) made. The booksellers use the wrong number 250 (according to the publisher only 50 where made)

Books planned Books made and available for sale at the publisher
750 copy Signed Hardcover Edition, $25 (light gray cloth) 750 copy Signed Hardcover Edition, $25 (light gray cloth)

for sale as such or with the signed chapbook and slipcase for total $40

250 (Lettered with Roman numbers) Signed Hardcover Edition, $X (dark gray leather)
50 (or 53) Roman Numbered Deluxe LB Slipcased with LB Silver Lady & The Fortyish Man, $100 ( Signed and both dark gray, leatherbound )
50 copy Deluxe LB Slipcased with LB Silver Lady & The Fortyish Man, $100 (Signed and both blue leatherbound)
50 copies, leatherbound hardcover's, not signed, no limitation page, blue. Officially not for sale. Some are sold on conventions where it is clearly visible what they are.
1000 copy editions Signed chapbook Silver Lady & The Fortyish Man, $7.50 1000 copy editions Signed chapbook Silver Lady & The Fortyish Man, $7.50
slipcase $ 7.50 slipcase $ 7.50

--Mervi (talk) 16:01, 4 July 2014 (EEST)